The road from the Bigoted Woman stops here.



You cannot say that our chattering classes were not warned. The bigoted woman put a shot across Gordon Brown’s bows, but he ignored it. To be fair some of his MPs did take her points on board and made big strides in combating various unpleasant rightwing parties.


But the problem is that our politicians have got more and more out of touch. Whether it’s because so few of them ever do proper jobs, or spend much time working alongside ordinary people I don’t know.

There were tactical mistakes made. Trying to use ‘project fear’ into frightening the English and Welsh into obedience was always likely to backfire. People aren’t stupid. They can work out that when the IMF says that if the UK should leave the EU the continent would collapse into darkness and end up sinking into the sea, whilst at the same time the PM says that we’re so irrelevant we’d struggle to get the same deal as Norway; one or both of them has to be wrong, and possibly lying.

But there are other mistakes, more serious mistakes. Large parts of England and Wales feel they’ve been abandoned. A ‘remain’ supporter told me this morning that those who voted to leave wouldn’t get what they were hoping for. That’s when it struck me; a lot of these people don’t actually have any hope.

Stuck in towns where there are few decent jobs left, educated in ‘bog standard’ comprehensives, advised to go to university because “You might as well, you’ll never get a job that earns you enough to pay back your student loan.”

I know too many young people who are stuck in dead end jobs with no real hope of improving their lot.

The marginalised, the ignored, those who’ve been contemptuously dismissed, they’ve voted. Sometimes for the first time; people in their fifties registered specially to get their voices heard.


It was G. K. Chesterton who wrote


We hear men speaking for us of new laws strong and sweet,

Yet is there no man speaketh as we speak in the street.

It may be we shall rise the last as Frenchmen rose the first,

Our wrath come after Russia’s wrath and our wrath be the worst.

It may be we are meant to mark with our riot and our rest

God’s scorn for all men governing. It may be beer is best.

But we are the people of England; and we have not spoken yet.

Smile at us, pay us, pass us. But do not quite forget.


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11 thoughts on “The road from the Bigoted Woman stops here.

  1. roughseasinthemed June 24, 2016 at 12:17 pm Reply

    Apparently our educated politicians, unlike the thick working classes, can’t join the dots. Shit happens. It just did.

  2. Kay Kauffman June 24, 2016 at 12:46 pm Reply

    There are a lot of people here in the States with the same issue – no jobs, plenty of expense, and little hope of improvement. :/

    • jwebster2 June 24, 2016 at 7:22 pm Reply

      That’s the problem we’ve got, lifting these people up to an acceptable level

  3. Alicia Butcher Ehrhardt June 24, 2016 at 2:27 pm Reply

    “people in their fifties registered specially to get their voices heard.”

    Maybe, if they had VOTED all along, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

    My sympathies.

    • jwebster2 June 24, 2016 at 7:24 pm Reply

      Well I’m actually happy we’re leaving. I think it may even be a case of leaving early to avoid the iceberg.
      I agree they should have voted earlier, but then it gives you a feel for how people have been motivated to vote

      • Alicia Butcher Ehrhardt June 24, 2016 at 8:01 pm

        Apathy is no excuse. I’ve voted every year I could (okay, my kids weren’t in school, so I didn’t vote on schoolboard elections).

        It should be, as it is in SOME countries, a legal obligation of the citizenry.

        I understand not doing it if you think your vote is useless and won’t matter; understand, not condone. After the foofawrah we’ve just gone through here to make sure our daughter can vote for Hillary in November, after they essentially lost her, it is good to do these things before hand – there is no way to just call up or look online to see that you are registered to vote, and when that registration expires (if it does).

        All straightened out now – they processed the paperwork and actually sent her a card confirming her registration!

        But her primary vote didn’t count – and we might not have figured it out if she hadn’t tried.

        In any case, the world will adjust to the UK exiting; there may be some nasty unforeseen consequences, and a lot of inconvenient ones. But you guys aren’t Greece.

        We wish you well with your new choice – and hope people figure out quickly how to handle the new stuff (like a new prime minister, etc.). Change is always painful and time-consuming, even under the best of conditions.

  4. M T McGuire June 24, 2016 at 4:57 pm Reply

    What Alicia said. I graduated into a recession, I worked as a contract cleaner and I washed up in restaurants. Then I went to secretarial college and became a secretary, the exact job that I went to university to avoid having to do in the first place because I thought I was probably too arsy (I was). It was very good for me, I’m sure but it was shit. I completely lost my confidence. And it was hard work living with my parents for two years after 3 years away from home.

    I felt bitter and abandoned. I felt disenfranchised. But I still voted, because if you don’t use your voice you can’t complain if the people who are elected to represent you … well … don’t.

    It’s a pity that it had to be leaving the EU that suddenly woke people up to showing their anger. Also, it’s one thing feeling bitter and angry, it’s another thing doing the equivalent of blinding yourself with a penknife because you’re angry at what you see.

    Never mind, now they’ve registered, maybe they’ll vote in the next election, although we’ll never get a labour majority ever again because Scotland will vote SNP so unless there’s a Labour/SNP pact, lib-lab style, we’re a one party state. Forever.

    It seems to me that our problem is that we have become very cynical about our politicians – often with good reason – we consider them all to be lying duplicitous bastards, and doubtless many of them are, the word ‘statesmanlike’ seems to be redundant. Elections are fought on puff and shite rather than issues. But others are like Jo Cox. And ignoring them all and hoping they’ll go away isn’t the answer. Likewise, swapping the grim for the appalling strikes me as, also, comprehensively the wrong answer.

    Still, we’ve fucked the dog now, so we’ll just have to put it behind us and hope we can sort ourselves out.



    • jwebster2 June 24, 2016 at 7:25 pm Reply

      People mistrust politicians because politicians have told then the other lot are ‘tory scum’ or whatever. When politicians slag off politicians, people believe them 😦

      • M T McGuire June 25, 2016 at 12:55 am

        True, but we also see it as cheap and they lose our respect that way too.

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